Dieter Humpsch: …the only ID that I had was my passport, which had been in the wash and was really mangled.
Shawn Perry: Wait. So you actually functioned in society, bought cars, rented houses, all without a license, and you were fine?
Dieter: Yeah. I can’t remember how I bought my first car. I had and Astro van that I bought privately and just didn’t put plates on it or anything for a while. I was riding dirty for a while; maybe don’t put this in the interview [laughs].


